美國總統(tǒng)候選人布什與克里第二場電視辯論

編號：時間：2021年x月x日書山有路勤為徑，學(xué)海無涯苦作舟頁碼：第88頁 共88頁美國總統(tǒng)候選人布什與克里第二場電視辯論 ?13o?2?2?t3?dvnews_pageTheSecondBush-KerrypresidentialDebate?1?2?8?13o?2?2?Y￥?a?(WASHINGTONUNIVERSITY,ST.LOUIS,MIOURI)?DD?t3?Y?D?o?2?2?3?D2?D?2?2a?EAKERS:GEORGEW.BUSH,pRESIDENTOFTHEUNITEDSTATESU.S.SENATORJOHNF.KERRY(MA),DEMOCRATICpRESIDENTIALNOMINEECHARLESGION,ABCANCHORGION:GoodeveningfromtheFieldHouseatWashingtonUniversityinSt.Louis.I?mCharlesGionofABewsand”GoodMorningAmerica.”Iwelcomeyoutothesecondofthe20xxpresidentialdebatesbetweenpresidentGeorgeW.Bush,theRepublicannominee,andSenatorJohnKerry,theDemocraticnominee.ThedebatesareooredbytheCommiiononpresidentialDebates.Tonight?sformatisgoingtobeabitdifferent.Wehaveaembledatown-hallmeeting.We?reintheShow-MeState,aseveryoneknowsMiouritobe,soMiouriresidentswillaskthequestio.These140citizewereidentifiedbytheGallupOrganizationasnotyetcommittedinthiselection.Now,earliertoday,eachaudiencemembergavemetwoquestiooncardslikethis,onethey?dliketoaskthepresident,theotherthey?dliketoaskthesenator.Ihaveselectedthequestiotobeaskedandtheorder.Noonehasseenthefinallistofquestiobutme,certainlynotthecandidates.Noaudiencememberknowsifheorshewillbecalledupon.Audiencemicrophoneswillbeturnedoffafteraquestionisasked.Audiencememberswilladdretheirquestiontoaecificcandidate.He?llhavetwominutestoawer.Theothercandidatewillhaveaminuteandahalfforrebuttal.AndIhavetheoptionofextendingdiscuionforoneminute,tobepidedequallybetweenthetwomen.Allsubjectsareopenfordiscuion.Andyouprobablyknowthelightsystembynow.Greenlightat30seconds,yellowat15,redatfive,andflashingredmeayou?redone.Thosearethecandidates?rules.Iwillholdthecandidatestothetimelimitsforcefullybutpolitely,Ihope.Andnow,pleasejoinmeinwelcomingwithgreatreect,presidentBushandSenatorKerr ?13o?2?2?t3?23y.(ALAUSE)Gentlemen,tothebusineathand.ThefirstquestionisforSenatorKerry,anditwillcomefromCherylOtis,whoisrightbehindme.OTIS:SenatorKerry,aftertalkingwithseveralco-workersandfamilyandfriends,Iaskedtheoneswhosaidtheywerenotvotingforyou,”Why?”Theysaidthatyouweretoowishy-washy.Doyouhaveareplyforthem?KERRY:Yes,Icertainlydo.(LAUGHTER)Butletmejustfirst,Cheryl,ifyouwill,IwanttothankCharlieformoderating.IwanttothankWashingtonUniversityforhostingusherethisevening.Mr.president,it?sgoodtobewithyouagainthisevening,sir.Cheryl,thepresidentdidn?tfindweapoofmadestructioninIraq,sohe?sreallyturnedhiscampaignintoaweaponofmadeception.Andtheresultisthatyou?vebeenbombardedwithadvertisementssuggestingthatI?vechangedapositiononthisorthatortheother.Now,thethreethingstheytrytosayI?vechangedpositiononarethepatriotAct;Ihaven?t.Isuortit.Ijustdon?tlikethewayJohnAshcrofthasaliedit,andwe?regoingtochangeafewthings.ThechairmanoftheRepublicanpartythinksweoughttochangeafewthings.NoChildLeftBehindAct,Ivotedforit.Isuortit.Isuortthegoals.Butthepresidenthasunderfundeditby28billion.RighthereinSt.Louis,you?velaidoff350teachers.You?re150-excuseme,Ithinkit?salittlemore,about100millionshyofwhatyououghttobeundertheNoChildLeftBehindActtohelpyoureducationsystemhere.SoIcomplainaboutthat.I?vearguedthatweshouldfullyfundedit.ThepresidentsaysI?vechangedmymind.Ihaven?tchangedmymind:I?mgoingtofullyfundit.Sothesearethedifferences.Now,thepresidenthaspresidedoveraneconomywherewe?velost1.6millionjo.Thefirstpresidentin72yearstolosejo.Ihaveaplantoputpeoplebacktowork.That?snotwishy-washy.I?mgoingtoclosetheloopholesthatactuallyencouragecompaniestogooverseas.Thepresidentwantstokeepthemopen.IthinkI?mright.Ithinkhe?swrong.I?mgoingtogiveyouataxcut.Thepresidentgavethetop1percentofincome-earnersinAmerica,got89billionlastyear,morethanthe80percentofpeoplewhoearn100,000orleallputtogether.Ithinkthat?swrong.That?snotwishy-washy,andthat?swhatI?mfightingfor,you.GION:Mr.president,aminuteandahalf.BUSH:Charlie,thankyou,andthankourpanelists.And,Senator,thankyou.Ican-andthanks,WashingtonU.aswell.Icanseewhypeopleatyourworkplacethinkhechangespositioalot,becausehedoes.Hesaidhevotedforthe87billion,andvotedagaititrightbeforehevotedforit.Andthatsendsaconfusingsignaltopeople.HesaidhethoughtSaddamHueinwasagravethreat,andnowhesaiditwasamistaketoremoveSaddamHueinfrompower.No,Icanseewhypeoplethinkthathechangespositionquiteoften,becausehedoes.Youknow,forawhilehewasastrongsuorterofgettingridofSaddamHuein.Hesawthewisdom-untiltheDemocratprimarycamealongandHowardDean,theanti-warcandidate,begantogainonhim,andhechangedpositio.Idon?tseehowyoucanleadthiscountryinatimeofwar,inatimeofuncertainty,ifyouchangeyourmindbecauseofpolitics.Hejustbroughtupthetaxcut.Yourememberweincreasedthatchildcreditby1,000,reducedthemarriagepenalty,createda10percenttaxbracketforthelower-incomeAmerica.That?srightatthemiddlecla.Hevotedagaitit.Andyethetellsyouhe?sforamiddle-clataxcut.It?s-you?vegottobecoistentwhenyou?rethepresident.There?salotofpreures.Andyou?vegottobefirmandcoistent.GION:Mr.president,Iwouldfollowup,butwehaveaseriesofquestioonIraq,andsoIwillturntothenextquestioner.ThequestionisforpresidentBush,andthequestionerisRobinDahle.DAHLE:Mr.president,yesterdayinastatementyouadmittedthatIraqdidnothaveweapoofmadestruction,butjustifiedtheinvasionbystating,Iquote,”Heretainedtheknowledge,thematerials,themeaandtheintenttoproduceweapoofmadestructionandcouldhavepaedthisknowledgetoourterroristenemies.”Doyousincerelybelievethistobeareasonablejustificationforinvasionwhenthisstatementaliestosomanyothercountries,includingNorthKorea?BUSH:Eachsituationisdifferent,Robin.Andobviouslywehopethatdiplomacyworksbeforeyoueveruseforce.Thehardestdecisionapresidentmakesisevertouseforce.After9/11,wehadtolookattheworlddifferently.After9/11,wehadtorecognizethatwhenwesawathreat,wemusttakeitseriouslybeforeitcomestohurtus.Intheolddayswe?dseeathreat,andwecoulddealwithitifwefeltlikeitornot.But9/11changeditall.IvowedtoourcountrymenthatIwoulddoeverythingIcouldtoprotecttheAmericanpeople.That?swhywe?rebringingAlQaidatojustice.Seventyfivepercentofthemhavebeenbroughttojustice.That?swhyIsaidtoAfghanistan:Ifyouharboraterrorist,you?rejustasguiltyastheterrorist.AndtheTalibanisnolongerinpower,andAlQaidanolongerhasaplacetoplan.AndIsawauniquethreatinSaddamHuein,asdidmyoonent,becausewethoughthehadweapoofmadestruction.AndtheuniquethreatwasthathecouldgiveweapoofmadestructiontoanorganizationlikeAlQaida,andtheharmtheyinflictedonuswithairplaneswouldbemultipliedgreatlybyweapoofmadestruction.Andthatwastheserious,seriousthreat.SoItrieddiplomacy,wenttotheUnitedNatio.ButaswelearnedinthesamereportIquoted,SaddamHueinwasgamingtheoil-for-foodprogramtogetridofsanctio.Hewastryingtogetridofsanctioforareason:Hewantedtorestarthisweapoprograms.Weallthoughttherewasweapothere,Robin.Myoonentthoughttherewasweapothere.That?swhyhecalledhimagravethreat.Iwa?thaywhenwefoundouttherewa?tweapo,andwe?vegotanintelligencegrouptogethertofigureoutwhy.ButSaddamHueinwasauniquethreat.Andtheworldisbetteroffwithouthiminpower.Andmyoonent?splaleadmetoconcludethatSaddamHueinwouldstillbeinpower,andtheworldwouldbemoredangerous.Thankyou,sir.GION:SenatorKerry,aminuteandahalf.KERRY:Robin,I?mgoingtoaweryourquestion.I?malsogoingtotalk-reondtowhatyouasked,Cheryl,atthesametime.Theworldismoredangeroustoday.Theworldismoredangeroustodaybecausethepresidentdidn?tmaketherightjudgments.Now,thepresidentwishesthatIhadchangedmymind.Hewantsyoutobelievethatbecausehecan?tcomehereandtellyouthathe?screatednewjoforAmerica.He?slostjo.Hecan?tcomehereandtellyouthathe?screatedhealthcareforAmericabecause,what,we?vegot5millionAmericawhohavelosttheirhealthcare,96,000ofthemrighthereinMiouri.Hecan?tcomehereandtellyouthathe?sleftnochildbehindbecausehedidn?tfundnochildleftbehind.Sowhatdoeshedo?He?stryingtoattackme.HewantsyoutobelievethatIcan?tbepresident.Andhe?stryingtomakeyoubelieveitbecausehewantsyoutothinkIchangemymind.Well,letmetellyoustraightup:I?veneverchangedmymindaboutIraq.IdobelieveSaddamHueinwasathreat.Ialwaysbelievedhewasathreat.Believeditin1998whenClintonwaspresident.IwantedtogiveClintonthepowertouseforceifneceary.ButIwouldhaveusedthatforcewisely,Iwouldhaveusedthatauthoritywisely,notrushedtowarwithoutaplantowinthepeace.Iwouldhavebroughtouralliestoourside.Iwouldhavefoughttomakecertainourtroohadeverybodypoibletohelpthemwinthemiion.Thispresidentrushedtowar,pushedouralliesaside.AndIrannowismoredangerous,andsoisNorthKorea,withnuclearweapo.Hetookhiseyeofftheball,offofOsamabinLaden.GION:Mr.president,Idowanttofollowuponthisone,becausetherewereseveralquestiofromtheaudiencealongthisline.BUSH:(OFF-MIKE)GION:Goahead.Goahead.(CROTALK)GION:Well,Iwasgoingtohaveyoudotherebuttalonit,butyougoahead.(LAUGHTER)You?reup.BUSH:Yourememberthelastdebate?MyoonentsaidthatAmericamustpaaglobaltestbeforeweusedforcetoprotectourselves.That?sthekindofmindsetthatsayssanctiowereworking.That?sthekindofmindsetthatsaid,”Let?skeepitattheUnitedNatioandhopethingsgowell.”SaddamHueinwasathreatbecausehecouldhavegivenweapoofmadestructiontoterroristenemies.Sanctiowerenotworking.TheUnitedNatiowasnoteffectiveatremovingSaddamHuein.GION:Senator?KERRY:ThegoalofthesanctiowasnottoremoveSaddamHuein,itwastoremovetheweapoofmadestruction.And,Mr.president,justyesterdaytheDuelferreporttoldyouandthewholeworldtheyworked.Hedidn?thaveweapoofmadestruction,Mr.president.Thatwastheobjective.Andifwe?dusedsmartdiplomacy,wecouldhavesaved200billionandaninvasionofIraq.Andrightnow,OsamabinLadenmightbeinjailordead.That?sthewaragaitterror.GION:We?regoingtohaveanotherquestionnowonthesubjectofIraq.AndI?mgoingtoturntoAnthonyBaldiwithaquestionforSenatorKerry.Mr.Baldi?BALDI:SenatorKerry,theU.S.ispreparinganewIraqgovernmentandwillproceedtowithdrawU.S.troo.WouldyouproceedwiththesameplaaspresidentBush?KERRY:Anthony,Iwouldnot.Ihavelaidoutadifferentplan,becausethepresident?splanisnotworking.Youseethateverynightontelevision.There?schaosinIraq.KingAbdullahofJordansaidjustyesterdayorthedaybeforeyoucan?tholdelectioinIraqwiththechaosthat?sgoingontoday.SenatorRichardLugar,theRepublicanchairmanoftheForeignRelatioCommittee,saidthatthehandlingoftherecotructionaidinIraqbythisadministrationhasbeenincompetent.ThosearetheRepublicanchairman?swords.SenatorHagelofNebraskasaidthatthehandlingofIraqisbeyondpitiful,beyondembarraing;it?sinthezoneofdangerous.ThosearethewordsoftwoRepublica,reected,bothontheForeignRelatioCommittee.Now,Ihavetotellyou,Iwoulddosomethingdifferent.Iwouldreachouttoouralliesinawaythatthispresidentha?t.Hepushedthemawaytimeandagain,pushedthemawayattheU.N.,pushedthemawayinpidually.Twoweeksago,therewasameetingoftheNorthAtlanticCouncil,whichisthepoliticalarmofNATO.TheydiscuedthepoibilityofasmalltrainingunitorhavingatotaltakeoverofthetraininginIraq.DidouradministrationpushforthetotaltrainingofIraq?No.Weretheysilent?Yes.Wasthereanefforttobringallthealliestogetheraroundthat?No,becausethey?vealwayswantedthistobeanAmericaneffort.Youknow,theyevenhadtheDefeeDepartmentiueamemorandumsaying,”Don?tbotheralyingforaistanceorforbeingpartoftherecotructionifyouweren?tpartofouroriginalcoalition.”Now,that?snotagoodwaytobuildsuortandreducetheriskforourtrooandmakeAmericasafer.I?mgoingtogetthetrainingdoneforourtroo.I?mgoingtogetthetrainingofIraqisdonefaster.AndI?mgoingtogetouralliesbacktothetable.BUSH:TwodaysagointheOvalOffice,ImetwiththefinanceministerfromIraq.Hecametoseeme.Andhetalkedabouthowoptimistichewasandthecountrywasaboutheadingtowardelectio.Thinkaboutit:They?regoingfromtyraytoelectio.Hetalkedabouttherecotructioneffortsthatarebegiingtotakehold.HetalkedaboutthefactthatIraqislovetobefree.Hesaidhewasoptimisticwhenhecamehere,thenheturnedontheTVandlistenedtothepoliticalrhetoricandallofasuddenhewaspeimistic.Now,thisisguyawho,alongwithothers,hastakengreatriskforgreatfreedom.Andweneedtostandwithhim.Myoonentsayshehasaplaitsoundsfamiliar,becauseit?scalledtheBushplan.We?regoingtotraintroo,andweare.We?llhave125,000trainedbytheendofDecember.We?reendingabout7billion.Hetalksaboutagrandidea:Let?shaveasummit;we?regoingtosolvetheprobleminIraqbyholdingasummit.Andwhatishegoingtosaytothosepeoplethatshowupatthesummit?Joinmeinthewrongwaratthewrongtimeatthewrongplace.Riskyourtrooinawaryou?vecalledamistake.Nobodyisgoingtofollowsomebodywhodoe?tbelievewecansucceedandwithsomebodywhosaysthatwarwhereweareisamistake.Iknowhowthesepeoplethink.Imeetwiththemallthetime.ItalktoTonyBlairallthetime.ItalktoSilvioBerlusconi.They?renotgoingtofollowanAmericanpresidentwhosaysfollowmeintoamistake.Ourplanisworking.We?regoingtomakeelectio.AndIraqisgoingtobefree,andAmericawillbebetteroffforit.GION:Doyouwanttofollowup,Senator?KERRY:Yes,sir,please.Ladiesandgentlemen,therightwarwasOsamabinLadenandAfghanistan.Thatwastherightplace.AndtherighttimewasToraBora,whenwehadhimcorneredinthemountai.Now,everyoneintheworldknowsthattherewerenoweapoofmadestruction.ThatwasthereasonCongregavehimtheauthoritytouseforce,notafterexcusetogetridoftheregime.Nowwehavetosucceed.I?vealwayssaidthat.Ihavebeencoistent.Yes,wehavetosucceed,andIhaveabetterplantohelpusdoit.BUSH:Firstofall,wedidn?tfindouthedidn?thaveweapountilwegotthere,andmyoonentthoughthehadweapoandtoldeverybodyhethoughthehadweapo.Andsecondly,it?safundamentalmisunderstandingtosaythatthewaronterrorisonlyOsamabinLaden.Thewaronterroristomakesurethattheseterroristorganizatiodonotendupwithweapoofmadestruction.That?swhatthewaronterrorisabout.Ofcourse,we?regoingtofindOsamabinLaden.We?vealready75percentofhispeople.Andwe?reonthehuntforhim.Butthisisaglobalconflictthatrequiresfirmresolve.GION:ThenextquestionisforpresidentBush,anditcomesfromNikkiWashington.WASHINGTON:Thankyou.Mr.president,mymotherandsistertraveledabroadthissummer,andwhentheygotbacktheytalkedtousabouthowshockedtheywereattheinteityofaggravationthatothercountrieshadwithhowwehandledtheIraqsituation.Diplomacyisobviouslysomethingthatwereallyhavetoreallyworkon.Whatisyourplantorepairrelatiowithothercountriesgiventhecurrentsituation?BUSH:No,Iareciatethat.I-listen,I-we?vegotagreatcountry.Iloveourvalues.AndIrecognizeI?vemadesomedecisiothathavecausedpeopletonotunderstandthegreatvaluesofourcountry.IrememberwhenRonaldReaganwasthepresident;hestoodonprinciple.Somebodycalledthatstuorn.HestoodonprinciplestandinguptotheSovietUnion,andwewonthatconflict.Yetatthesametime,hewasvery-wewereveryuopularinEuropebecauseofthedecisiohemade.IrecognizethattakingSaddamHueinoutwasuopular.ButImadethedecisionbecauseIthoughtitwasintherightinterestsofoursecurity.Youknow,I?vemadesomedecisioonIsraelthat?suopular.Iwouldn?tdealwithArafat,becauseIfeltlikehehadlettheformerpresidentdown,andIdon?tthinkhe?sthekindofpersonthatcanleadtowardapalestinianstate.AndpeopleinEuropedidn?tlikethatdecision.Andthatwasuopular,butitwastherightthingtodo.Ibelievepalestiniaoughttohaveastate,butIknowtheyneedleadershipthat?scommittedtoademocracyandfreedom,leadershipthatwouldbewillingtorejectterrorism.ImadeadecisionnottojointheInternationalCriminalCourtinTheHague,whichiswhereourtroocouldbebroughtto-broughtinfrontofajudge,anunaccountedjudge.Idon?tthinkweoughttojointhat.Thatwasuopular.Andso,whatI?mtellingyouis,isthatsometimesinthisworldyoumakeuopulardecisiobecauseyouthinkthey?reright.We?llcontinuetoreachout.Listen,thereis30natioinvolvedinIraq,some40natioinvolvedinAfghanistan.peopleloveAmerica.Sometimestheydon?tlikethedecisiomadebyAmerica,butIdon?tthinkyouwantapresidentwhotriestobecomepopularanddoesthewrongthing.Youdon?twanttojointheInternationalCriminalCourtjustbecauseit?spopularincertaincapitalsinEurope.GION:SenatorKerry,aminuteandahalf.KERRY:Nikki,that?saquestionthat?sbeenraisedbyalotofpeoplearoundthecountry.Letmeaddreitbutalsotalkabouttheweapothepresidentjusttalkedabout,becauseeverypartofthepresident?sawerjustnowpromisesyoumoreofthesameoverthenextfouryears.Thepresidentstoodrighthereinthishallfouryearsago,andhewasaskedaquestionbysomebodyjustlikeyou,”Underwhatcircumstanceswouldyousendpeopletowar?”Andhisawerwas,”Withaviableexitstrategyandonlywithenoughforcestogetthejobdone.”Hedidn?tdothat.Hebrokethatpromise.Wedidn?thaveenoughforces.GeneralShieki,theArmychiefofstaff,toldhimhewasgoingtoneedseveralhundredthousand.Andguewhat?TheyretiredGeneralShiekifortellinghimthat.Thispresidentha?tlistened.IwenttomeetwiththemembersoftheSecurityCouncilintheweekbeforewevoted.IwenttoNewYork.ItalkedtoallofthemtofindouthowserioustheywereaboutreallyholdingSaddamHueinaccountable.Icameawayconvincedthat,ifweworkedatit,ifwewerereadytoworkandlettingHaBlixdohisjobandthoroughlygothroughtheiectio,thatifpushcametoshove,they?dbetherewithus.Butthepresidentjustarbitrarilybroughtthehammerdownandsaid,”Nope.Sorry,timefordiplomacyisover.We?regoing.”Herushedtowarwithoutaplantowinthepeace.Ladiesandgentleman,hegaveyouaeechandtoldyouhe?dplancarefully,takeeveryprecaution,takeourallieswithus.Hedidn?t.Hebrokehisword.GION:Mr.president?BUSH:IremembersittingintheWhiteHouselookingatthosegenerals,saying,”Doyouhavewhatyouneedinthiswar?Doyouhavewhatittakes?”IremembergoingdowntothebasementoftheWhiteHousethedaywecommittedourtrooaslastresort,lookingatTommyFranksandthegeneralsontheground,askingthem,”Dowehavetherightplanwiththerighttrooplevel?”Andtheylookedmeintheeyeandsaid,”Yes,sir,Mr.president.”O(jiān)fcourse,Ilistentoourgenerals.That?swhatapresidentdoes.Apresidentsetsthestrategyandreliesupongoodmilitarypeopletoexecutethatstrategy.GION:Senator?KERRY:Yourelyongoodmilitarypeopletoexecutethemilitarycomponentofthestrategy,butwiingthepeaceislargerthanjustthemilitarycomponent.GeneralShiekihadthewisdomtosay,”You?regoingtoneedseveralhundredthousandtrootowinthepeace.”Themilitary?sjobistowinthewar.Apresident?sjobistowinthepeace.Thepresidentdidnotdowhatwasneceary.Didn?tbringinenoughnation.Didn?tdeliverthehelp.Didn?tcloseofftheborders.Didn?tevenguardtheammodum.Andnowourkidsarebeingkilledwithammosrightoutofthatdump.GION:ThenextquestionisforSenatorKerry,anditcomesfromoverhere,fromRandeeJaco.You?llneedamicrophone.KERRY:IsitRandee?JACO:Yes,Randee.IranoorsterrorismandhasmiilescapableofhittingIsraelandsouthernEurope.Iranwillhavenuclearweapointwotothreeyearstime.IntheeventthatU.N.sanctiodon?tstopthisthreat,whatwillyoudoaspresident?KERRY:Idon?tthinkyoucanjustrelyonU.N.sanctio,Randee.Butyou?reaolutelycorrect,itisathreat,it?sahugethreat.Andwhat?sinterestingis,it?sathreatthathasgrownwhilethepresidenthasbeenpreoccupiedwithIraq,wheretherewa?tathreat.Ifhe?dlettheiectorsdotheirjobandgoon,wewouldn?thave10timesthenumbersofforcesinIraqthatwehaveinAfghanistanchasingOsamabinLaden.Meanwhile,whileIranismovingtowardnuclearweapo,some37toofwhattheycalledyellowcake,thestufftheyusetomakeenricheduranium,whilethey?redoingthat,NorthKoreahasmovedfromonebombmaybe,maybe,tofourtosevenbom.Fortwoyears,thepresidentdidn?tevenengagewithNorthKorea,didnothingatall,whileitwasgrowingmoredangerous,deitethewarningsofformerSecretaryofDefeeWilliamperry,whonegotiatedgettingtelevisioncamerasandiectorsintothatreactor.WeweresaferbeforepresidentBushcametooffice.Nowtheyhavethebomandwe?relesafe.Sowhatdowedo?We?vegottojoinwiththeBritishandtheFrench,withtheGerma,who?vebeeninvolved,intheirinitiative.We?vegottoleadtheworldnowtocrackdownonproliferationasawhole.Butthepresident?sbeenslowtodothat,eveninRuia.Athispace,it?sgoingtotake13yearstoreduceandgetaholdofalltheloosenuclearmaterialintheformerSovietUnion.I?veproposedaplanthatcancaptureitandcontainitandcleanitwithinfouryears.Andthepresidentismovingtothecreationofourownbunker-bustingnuclearweapon.It?sveryhardtogetothercountriestogiveuptheirweapowhenyou?rebusydevelopinganewone.I?mgoingtoleadtheworldinthegreatestcounterproliferationeffort.AndifwehavetogettoughwithIran,believeme,wewillgettough.GION:Mr.president,aminuteandahalf.BUSH:Thataweralmostmademewanttoscowl.Hekeetalkingabout,”Lettheiectorsdotheirjob.”It?snaiveanddangeroustosaythat.That?swhattheDuelferreportshowed.Hewasdeceivingtheiectors.Secondly,ofcoursewe?vebeeninvolvedwithIran.Ifullyunderstandthethreat.Andthat?swhywe?redoingwhathesuggestedwedo:GettheBrits,theGermaa